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Ally J.
asked 05/03/21a) 30x4! The answer is 720 when you plug it in the calculator, but how can make it to be 6!, 6! = 720, if that makes sense.
b) 7 / 2! 5! + 7! / 4! 3!
I did, 7x6x4x3 = 504, 7x6x5 / 3x2x1 = 84, 84 + 504 = 588 but the answer was supposed to be 56.
c) 9! / 3! 6!
I did 9x8x7x5x4 = 10,080 but the answer was 84.
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Vidya V.
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Part a) 30*4! = 6*5*4!= 6!Part c) If you do:(9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1)/(3x2x1)(6x5x4x3x2x1)=(9x8x7)/(3x2x1)You’ll get the answerI think you might have missed some number Part b) would be 21+ 35= 56I see your mistake now!Ok what you’re doing is you’re just removing the denominator numbers from the numerator- but in the denominator you have 2!*5! Which means your denominator would be (2x1)(5x4x3x2x1)Now you cancel out some numbers in the numbers for and denominator and you would end up having 21 and 35.I hope I have helped you understand.Report
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Ally J.
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James C. answered 05/03/21
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The key here is to remember what factorials look like when "expanded" out. In general,
n! = n x (n-1) x (n-2) x , , , x 2 x 1
or
7! = 7x6x5x4x3x2x1
So, for part a, we can make the expression look like 6! by doing the following
30x4! = 30x4x3x2x1
Notice that 30 = 6x5
30x4x3x2x1 = 6x5x4x3x2x1 = 6!
For part b, if we expand out each factorial, we will see a lot of cancelling between the numerator and denominator. I will give an example of the second half of part b and then let you take it from there.
7! / 4! 3! = 7x6x5x4x3x2x1 / (4x3x2x1)x(3x2x1)
Notice that 3x2x1 = 6
7x6x5x4x3x2x1 / (4x3x2x1)x6
Now notice that there is a 4,3,2,1, and 6 on top and bottom of the fraction, so we can cancel those out,
7x5 = 35
(remember that this is only the second half of part b, you can confirm that the first half is equal to 21, meaning the answer is 56 as you said)
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Ally J.
Thank you so much, but what if it was a bigger number like 90x8! Or 20x19! ? Second part, But the thing that I’m confused about is that it is very similar to question that I did before which is 9! / 3! 6!, 9x8x7x6x5x4x3 (up to 3!) cancel the 3! numerator and denominator and the 6! as well, and my answer was 10,080 which was correct. Did the exact same thing, that’s why I was confused.Report
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James C.
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For the first part, this process will work regardless of the size of the number. They key is to factor the larger number into numbers that can be "absorbed" into the factorial, for the example you gave, 90x8! = 10x9x8! = 10!As for the second part, it is hard to give a definite answer without seeing the problem you are talking about. It is also possible to just get lucky and make 2 mistakes that cancel each other out when calculating a factorial like these. This method will definitely get you the correct result every time, though.Report
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Ally J.
For 20x19! I did (5x4=20) 5x4x3x2x1 = 5! Which was incorrect. I realised my mistake for part b) your way was better!Report
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Ally J.
Also what if it was 21! / 17!4!, I did 21x20x19x18x17x16x15x14x13x12x11x10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1 / (17x16x15x14x13x12x11x10x9x8x7x6x5x3x2x1)x(4x3x2x1)=24, so cancel 17s,16s,15s,14s.....1s I was left with 21x20x17x18 / 4x3x2x1, and still got the answer wrong.Report
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a) 30 x 4! = 6 x 5 x 4! = 6! (30=6x5)
6! = 30 x 4! = 720
either = 6(5)(4)(3)(2)(1) = 30x24= 720
b) 7!/2!5! + 7!/3!4! = 7(6)/2 + 7(6)(5)/3(2) = 21 +35 =56
You seem to have omitted ! after the first 7
c) 9!/3!6! = 9(8)(7)/3(2) = 3(4)7) = 84
9!= 9(8)(7)(6!) the 6! cancels with the 6! in the denominator leaving
9(8)(7)/3(2)(1). 3 divides into 9 = 3 and 2 divides into 8 = 4 leaving
3(4)(7) = 12(7) = 84
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